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Hi there,

couls somebody please have a look at this bug:
https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=429378

There are some other virtuals which have a similar problem, I just want
one precedent before filing bugs for all of them...

Regards,
aranea

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Re: Incomplete virtuals

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On Fri, 5 Oct 2012 15:07:45 +0200
<[hidden email]> wrote:

> Hi there,
>
> could somebody please have a look at this bug:
> https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=429378
>
> There are some other virtuals which have a similar problem, I just want
> one precedent before filing bugs for all of them...
>
> Regards,
> aranea
>
>
Ping. Anyone's reading this ML?

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Re: Incomplete virtuals

Roberto Felipe Araneda Chavarria-2
ack!

On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 9:56 AM,  <[hidden email]> wrote:

> On Fri, 5 Oct 2012 15:07:45 +0200
> <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> Hi there,
>>
>> could somebody please have a look at this bug:
>> https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=429378
>>
>> There are some other virtuals which have a similar problem, I just want
>> one precedent before filing bugs for all of them...
>>
>> Regards,
>> aranea
>>
>>
>
> Ping. Anyone's reading this ML?



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Re: Incomplete virtuals

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On Fri, 5 Oct 2012 15:07:45 +0200
<[hidden email]> wrote:

> Hi there,
>
> could somebody please have a look at this bug:
> https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=429378
>
> There are some other virtuals which have a similar problem, I just
> want one precedent before filing bugs for all of them...
>
> Regards,
> aranea
>
>
It's been 3 months since I filed this bug, and one month ago I sent a
reminder to the gentoo-perl ML. There haven't been any reactions. I
also couldn't reach anyone on IRC. Is this herd dead or what?

Regards,
aranea / Luis Ressel

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-perl] Incomplete virtuals

Kent Fredric
On 11 November 2012 00:27, aranea <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>
> It's been 3 months since I filed this bug, and one month ago I sent a
> reminder to the gentoo-perl ML. There haven't been any reactions. I
> also couldn't reach anyone on IRC. Is this herd dead or what?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warnock%27s_Dilemma

As for IRC, I guess you need to be a little more patient, may of us
are in various different timezones =)

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-perl] Incomplete virtuals

Kent Fredric
The issue is basically, as you'll see in my comments on the updated
bug, Perl virtuals are not very trivial, and every perl release
results in a nightmare of fixes we have to apply to every Perl virtual
in tree, so we don't , at present, want more virtuals than necessary.

I'd personally love to have a virtual for each thing that is in perl
itself, as a virtual, because that would absolve me from a few
headaches with depending on certain core modules, but I won't request
it because the added complexity is just not really worth it.

And its not made easier by the fact upstream declare dependencies on
Modules, not Distributions , and Module<=>Distribution is resolved
dynamically at install time, and we basically have to make assumptions
downstream that modules wont jump around too much between releases .

If we were to have a virtual for each *module* that was possible to
depend on, there would be ... 668 virtuals, *just* for perl.

I volunteer to be somewhere else if that ever happens. Not maintaining
that, no thanks =)



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>Interesting link ;)
>
>I'm completely aware of the timezone problem, that's why I also used
>Bugzilla and the ML.

Hmm, that mail didn't get through...

Luis

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