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Re: ????????? ??????? ?? 21.11.2005

ikorot
Hi, Alex,
I just looked at my translation for SPARC.
It appears as if it was not formatted. I looked at one file: SPARC Bootloader configuration. Somebody just missed the comments from the author, abot not formatting the text to 80 symbols... ;-)

Please correct.

Thank you.

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From: Alexey Chumakov <[hidden email]>
Sent: Nov 21, 2005 4:12 AM
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Subject: [gentoo-doc-ru] ????????? ??????? ?? 21.11.2005

?????? ? ???????!

1. ???????????? ??????????:
hb-install-config - ?????????????? ?????????
hb-install-ppc-medium; *sparc*; *x86*; *amd64*; *hppa* - ?????????
??????? ?????, ???????? ?????? ????????, ?????? ? ????????, ??????? x86
?????? ??????? ??? ?????? ??????????.
(????? ?????? ??????) - ??????? ???????? ? stage1 ? stage2 ?
???????????? ? ?????????? ?????????? ????????????.
???????????? ????????? ????? ????????? (????? ??????????? ?? ???????? ?
??????? ????????)

2. ???? ??????
????? ???????:
    Security Handbook (????? ???????? -- ???????? ??????? aka
FarCaller?; ??????? ?????? ??????? ????????)
?????? ???????:
    hb-net-modules (Analyzer) -- ? ???????? ?????????????????? ??????.
    hb-net-wireless (????) -- ??????? ??????, ???? ? ??? ????????.


3. ???? ????????? ??????????:
- ?????? ?? ????? ?????????? ????? (??. ????)
- ????????? ????? ?? ????????????
- ???????? ? ????????? ????????? ???????????, ??????????, ?????? ???? ?
???????, ????????? ? ??????? ????????? ???????? (???????? ??????????
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/ru/list.xml; ??????? -- ?? ?????)
- ??????????????? ???

4. ????: ??????? handbook:
???????? ???????:
    handbook/hb-working-features (???. ???????? - ??!)
?????????:
    hb-net-advanced (?????????, ???? ????????????? ??????, ???? ??
?????????!)
    hb-net-functions (???????, ???? ????????????? ??????, ???? ??
?????????!)
???????????????:
    ????? ??????, ??. ??????? ?????????

5. ????: ?????????? ????????? ??????????
????????????? ???????? ???????:
    altinstall.xml (???. ???????, ????????! ??? ?????????? ??????
????????????? ??? ?????? ?????????? 28.11.2005)
    diskless-howto.xml (???. ??????, ????????! ??? ?????????? ??????
????????????? ??????)
    qmail-howto.xml (???. ?????, ????????! ??? ?????????? ??????
????????????? ??? ?????? ?????????? 28.11.2005)
    quick-samba-howto.xml (???. Eraser, ????????! ??? ?????????? ??????
????????????? ??????)

6. ????????/????????? ??? ?????? ???? ?? ??????? ????????? ;-)

????????! ??????? ????????? ???????????????:
http://www.chumakov.ru/gentoo-doc/rgd_status.html


? ?????????,
??????? ???????
??????? ??????? ??????? ???????????? Gentoo

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Re: ????????? ??????? ?? 21.11.2005

achumakov
Igor Korot пишет:

> Hi, Alex, I just looked at my translation for SPARC. It appears as
> if it was not formatted. I looked at one file: SPARC Bootloader
> configuration. Somebody just missed the comments from the author,
> abot not formatting the text to 80 symbols... ;-)
>
> Please correct.
>
> Thank you.
>
Hi Igor,

I wonder where didyou find the unformatted one.

I've just looked at handbook/hb-install-sparc-bootloader.xml, and yet
not edited, it's already well-formatted.
I didn't find any of your SPARC translations that do not adhere to
coding style.

Could you please mention what the file name is and where did you find it?

With kindest regards,
Alexey Chumakov

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Re: ????????? ??????? ?? 21.11.2005

ikorot
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Hi, Alex,
This is the link I was looking for:

http://www.gentoo.org/doc/ru/handbook/handbook-sparc.xml?part=1&chap=10

Or you published on the Russian mirror only for now?

Thank you.

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From: Alexey Chumakov <[hidden email]>
Sent: Nov 21, 2005 9:02 PM
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Subject: Re: [gentoo-doc-ru] ????????? ??????? ?? 21.11.2005

Igor Korot ?????:

> Hi, Alex, I just looked at my translation for SPARC. It appears as
> if it was not formatted. I looked at one file: SPARC Bootloader
> configuration. Somebody just missed the comments from the author,
> abot not formatting the text to 80 symbols... ;-)
>
> Please correct.
>
> Thank you.
>
Hi Igor,

I wonder where didyou find the unformatted one.

I've just looked at handbook/hb-install-sparc-bootloader.xml, and yet
not edited, it's already well-formatted.
I didn't find any of your SPARC translations that do not adhere to
coding style.

Could you please mention what the file name is and where did you find it?

With kindest regards,
Alexey Chumakov

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Re: ????????? ??????? ?? 21.11.2005

achumakov
Sorry Igor, but (as I see) there's an up-to-date file at www.gentoo.org.
I didn't find any formatting errors in it.

Maybe you're using the cached file?
Tell me please, what and where do you see, what is supposed to be there,
and how to reproduce it ;-)

Alexey




Igor Korot пишет:

>Hi, Alex,
>This is the link I was looking for:
>
>http://www.gentoo.org/doc/ru/handbook/handbook-sparc.xml?part=1&chap=10
>
>Or you published on the Russian mirror only for now?
>
>Thank you.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Alexey Chumakov <[hidden email]>
>Sent: Nov 21, 2005 9:02 PM
>To: [hidden email]
>Subject: Re: [gentoo-doc-ru] ????????? ??????? ?? 21.11.2005
>
>Igor Korot ?????:
>
>  
>
>>Hi, Alex, I just looked at my translation for SPARC. It appears as
>>if it was not formatted. I looked at one file: SPARC Bootloader
>>configuration. Somebody just missed the comments from the author,
>>abot not formatting the text to 80 symbols... ;-)
>>
>>Please correct.
>>
>>Thank you.
>>
>>    
>>
>Hi Igor,
>
>I wonder where didyou find the unformatted one.
>
>I've just looked at handbook/hb-install-sparc-bootloader.xml, and yet
>not edited, it's already well-formatted.
>I didn't find any of your SPARC translations that do not adhere to
>coding style.
>
>Could you please mention what the file name is and where did you find it?
>
>With kindest regards,
>Alexey Chumakov
>
>  
>

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Re: ????????? ??????? ?? 21.11.2005

ikorot
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Hi, Alex,
As I never looked At the Russian Gentoo documentation, it can not come from the cache.
The steps to reproduce the probelm are obvious:
1. Go to www.gentoo.org
2. Choose "Gentoo Handbook" link on the left handside.
3. Choose "Russian" as a language.
4. Choose "sparc" as an architecture for the "Last version, chapter on the page"
5. Choose "10 Setting a Bootloader"
First observe the first line in the "Preface" been more than 80 symbols. Also observe that shaded areas around all examples hit the shaded area with the authors on the right.

Although, I do see that the file is from the 21/11/2005.
Thank you.

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From: Alexey Chumakov <[hidden email]>
Sent: Nov 22, 2005 10:26 AM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [gentoo-doc-ru] ????????? ??????? ?? 21.11.2005

Sorry Igor, but (as I see) there's an up-to-date file at www.gentoo.org.
I didn't find any formatting errors in it.

Maybe you're using the cached file?
Tell me please, what and where do you see, what is supposed to be there,
and how to reproduce it ;-)

Alexey




Igor Korot ?????:

>Hi, Alex,
>This is the link I was looking for:
>
>http://www.gentoo.org/doc/ru/handbook/handbook-sparc.xml?part=1&chap=10
>
>Or you published on the Russian mirror only for now?
>
>Thank you.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Alexey Chumakov <[hidden email]>
>Sent: Nov 21, 2005 9:02 PM
>To: [hidden email]
>Subject: Re: [gentoo-doc-ru] ????????? ??????? ?? 21.11.2005
>
>Igor Korot ?????:
>
>  
>
>>Hi, Alex, I just looked at my translation for SPARC. It appears as
>>if it was not formatted. I looked at one file: SPARC Bootloader
>>configuration. Somebody just missed the comments from the author,
>>abot not formatting the text to 80 symbols... ;-)
>>
>>Please correct.
>>
>>Thank you.
>>
>>    
>>
>Hi Igor,
>
>I wonder where didyou find the unformatted one.
>
>I've just looked at handbook/hb-install-sparc-bootloader.xml, and yet
>not edited, it's already well-formatted.
>I didn't find any of your SPARC translations that do not adhere to
>coding style.
>
>Could you please mention what the file name is and where did you find it?
>
>With kindest regards,
>Alexey Chumakov
>
>  
>

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Re: ????????? ??????? ?? 21.11.2005

achumakov
Hi Igor,

it seems not the .xml is a problem. The text can be perfectly formatted, and still look poor at screen...
Probably, it's a gentoo.org design behavior.

Try http://gentoo.neysx.org , for example -- the look is quite different (but the file is the same).

Never mind -- the w.g.o design will soon change -- look at http://wwwredesign.gentoo.org

Yours,
Alexey Chumakov


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Re: ????????? ??????? ?? 21.11.2005

ikorot
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Hi, Alex,
I looked at the gentoo.neysx.org, and this chapter looks fine there. The first line in the "Introduction" is broken correctly.
What I don't understand is why the English version displays it correctly, and Russian one is not. Are you saying that the Gentoo having trouble translating the Russian UNICODE characters? Or it XML problem? The latter I seriously doubt, because if the formatting is done correctly, the same way as the English version, then it should display correctly.
Or maybe, since I translated it under Windows Notepad/Wordpad, it couldn't be read correctly under the XML Gentoo translator?

Anyway I am looking at it using the IE 6.0 from WinXP...

If someone have this configuration at work or home, please chack that the SPARC SILO installation part displays correctly in Russian interpretation.

Thank you.

-----Original Message-----
From: Alexey Chumakov <[hidden email]>
Sent: Nov 23, 2005 1:58 PM
To: [hidden email], [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [gentoo-doc-ru] ????????? ??????? ?? 21.11.2005

Hi Igor,

it seems not the .xml is a problem. The text can be perfectly formatted,
and still look poor at screen...
Probably, it's a gentoo.org design behavior.

Try http://gentoo.neysx.org , for example -- the look is quite different
(but the file is the same).

Never mind -- the w.g.o design will soon change -- look at
http://wwwredesign.gentoo.org

Yours,
Alexey Chumakov



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Jump!
Доброе утро, ИгОРЬ!

24 ноября 2005 г. в 5:28:51 вы написали мне 43 строк с темой: "[gentoo-doc-ru] ????????? ??????? ?? 21.11.2005" (mid:[hidden email]) и я решил ответить...

I> Anyway I am looking at it using the IE 6.0 from WinXP...

I> If someone have this configuration at work or home, please chack
I> that the SPARC SILO installation part displays correctly in Russian interpretation.

   Under  WinXp+IE6  -  all  looks  correct  and well-formatted, under
   WinXP+Opera8.02 - correct(see attachments).

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-----Original Message-----
From: Igor Korot <[hidden email]>
Sent: Nov 23, 2005 8:24 PM
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Subject: Re: Re[2]: [gentoo-doc-ru] ????????? ??????? ?? 21.11.2005

Thank you for the reply.
That's how it looks like on my PC - Windows XP + IE 6.0.2800.1106.xpsp2.050301-1526.

Thank you.

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Sent: Nov 23, 2005 8:09 PM
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Subject: Re[2]: [gentoo-doc-ru] ????????? ??????? ?? 21.11.2005

?????? ????, ?????!

24 ?????? 2005 ?. ? 5:28:51 ?? ???????? ??? 43 ????? ? ?????: "[gentoo-doc-ru] ????????? ??????? ?? 21.11.2005" (mid:[hidden email]) ? ? ????? ????????...

I> Anyway I am looking at it using the IE 6.0 from WinXP...

I> If someone have this configuration at work or home, please chack
I> that the SPARC SILO installation part displays correctly in Russian interpretation.

   Under  WinXp+IE6  -  all  looks  correct  and well-formatted, under
   WinXP+Opera8.02 - correct(see attachments).

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Winamp ??????: Everlast - Black Jesus
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