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Re: Java/Gentoo IDE integration-------about Jython version

Kyle Pan
Hi Serkan,

On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 16:56, Serkan Kaba <[hidden email]> wrote:

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> On 06-05-2011 18:10, Kyle Pan wrote:
>> Hi Serkan,
>>
>> During the past few days I was  putting my hands  to write demos for
>> querying java-config vars and here's a issue aroused during finding
>> documentation to read I'd like to discuss with you.
>>
>> I want to make sure that can I base my Java part of work on Jython
>> 2.5. Currently, in gentoo portage tree  there're three main versions
>> of Jython, namely 2.1,2.2 and 2.5.(under dev-java/jython). The current
>> marked stable one is 2.2. So at first I intended to base my Java part
>> development on 2.2. However,  I browsed all around the Jython official
>> page(http://www.jython.org/),  but cannot find documentation
>> specialized to 2.2(even such basic info like which Python version it
>> implements , etc). All documentation currently on www.jython.org is
>> for 2.5 release.
>> According to Jython website, 2.5 is the latest major release and
>> highly recommended by Jython project, recognized as a "major leap
>> forward"(http://www.jython.org/jythonbook/en/1.0/) and the most
>> important is that it is  well-documented. Also, It implements Python
>> 2.5.(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jython,Status and roadmap section),
>> while currently I cannot find Jython 2.2 implements which version of
>> Python.
>>
>> So I'd strongly prefer to base my Java part development on Jython 2.5.
>>  Firstly, If I base it on 2.2 , the doc I can learn from and rely on
>> would be a big problem for me. I cannot find  documentation
>> specialized for Jython 2.2 . All well documentation currently I can
>> find on Jython website is for 2.5 now. Secondly, compared to 2.5, 2,2
>> is an old release. 2.5 is trend and officially promoted one.
>> The only concern about using 2.5 is it is currently marked as ~x86 and
>> ~amd64, but I don't think it's a big problem because it's the trend
>> and as time goes on 2.5 will be marked stable, and I believe it won't
>> take too long to happen.
>>
>> Of course I will also take it into consideration and try my best to
>> make my code work both on 2.2 and 2.5. (That's the best. However,
>> since 2.5 is "major forward" to 2.2, the differences between them may
>> be not small, so it may be not easy work to make the codes compatible
>> with both. ) If this situation happens, I'd  prefer guarantee
>> compatibility to 2.5.
>>
>> So If it's acceptable, I  start to code using Jython 2.5. However, it
>> would always be better to consult you before any decision is made, I
>> think:)
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>
> Hi Kyle,
>
> It's nice to hear back from you. So I understand that you're making
> progress. In my opinion, depending on bleeding edge software isn't a
> problem, so go ahead. These 2 versions are in different slots and
> considered as 2 different packages (Side note: Think about how to treat
> them in your plugin)
>
> Another thing I want to mention is about communication. It's best to
> communicate via our gentoo-java ML instead of personal emails (unless
> there's something *personal*). You can find info on how to subscribe in
> http://www.gentoo.org/main/en/lists.xml
Ok. From now on I'll post to/CC gentoo-java when appropriate.

>
> Did you decide on the name? (I have a suggestion of GenEclipse) I'll
> create the SVN tree and get your commit rights setup. Once that's done.
> I would like to have your demo codes online as well. They,in the future,
> will evolve into the plugin. This also makes your progress visible.
Though I had proposed JarImporter, GenEclipse is better , I think. So
choose GenEclipse would be ok.


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> Sincerely,
> Serkan KABA
> Gentoo Developer
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Re: Re: Java/Gentoo IDE integration-------about Jython version

Serkan Kaba-2
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On 08-05-2011 18:10, Kyle Pan wrote:
> Did you decide on the name? (I have a suggestion of GenEclipse) I'll
> create the SVN tree and get your commit rights setup. Once that's done.
> I would like to have your demo codes online as well. They,in the future,
> will evolve into the plugin. This also makes your progress visible.
>> Though I had proposed JarImporter, GenEclipse is better , I think. So
>> choose GenEclipse would be ok.
I created the project[1] in SVN. I'll mail overlay admins for your
commit rights.

1: https://overlays.gentoo.org/svn/proj/java/projects/GenEclipse/
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Sincerely,
Serkan KABA
Gentoo Developer
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Re: Re: Java/Gentoo IDE integration-------about Jython version

Serkan Kaba-2
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On 08-05-2011 18:37, Serkan Kaba wrote:
> I created the project[1] in SVN. I'll mail overlay admins for your
> commit rights.
>
> 1: https://overlays.gentoo.org/svn/proj/java/projects/GenEclipse/
It's now done. Please check and if something goes wrong, you may ask in
#gentoo-overlays.

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Serkan KABA
Gentoo Developer
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Re: Re: Java/Gentoo IDE integration-------about Jython version

Kyle Pan
On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 02:50, Serkan Kaba <[hidden email]> wrote:

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> On 08-05-2011 18:37, Serkan Kaba wrote:
>> I created the project[1] in SVN. I'll mail overlay admins for your
>> commit rights.
>>
>> 1: https://overlays.gentoo.org/svn/proj/java/projects/GenEclipse/
> It's now done. Please check and if something goes wrong, you may ask in
> #gentoo-overlays.

Thanks a lot. I'll check it.

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> Sincerely,
> Serkan KABA
> Gentoo Developer
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With Best Regards,
Kyle Pan